http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/Reconfig_of_Enroute_Low_Charts.pdf

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:28:03 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
> wrote:

>http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/Reconfig_of_Enroute_Low_Charts.pdf
>


I just started receiving my reconfigured charts based on my NACO
subscription. Holy crap, did I just get a stack of charts! <G>

Are Copies available anywhere online?

Al G

"Jim Macklin" > wrote in message
...
> http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/Reconfig_of_Enroute_Low_Charts.pdf
>
>

On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 21:54:28 -0500, bsalai >
wrote:

>Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:28:03 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/Reconfig_of_Enroute_Low_Charts.pdf
>>>
>>
>>
>> I just started receiving my reconfigured charts based on my NACO
>> subscription. Holy crap, did I just get a stack of charts! <G>
>
>I just glanced at mine, but I think they sent a complete set. I can fly
>anywhere!


Upon closer review, that's exactly what they did. I would guess it's
probably cheaper to send the whole set than to expend a bunch of labor
picking and choosing which subscriptions are affected.

In a previous article, said:
>>I just glanced at mine, but I think they sent a complete set. I can fly
>>anywhere!
>
>Upon closer review, that's exactly what they did. I would guess it's
>probably cheaper to send the whole set than to expend a bunch of labor
>picking and choosing which subscriptions are affected.

My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.


--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
If men are from Mars and women are from Venus, there's going to be one
big-ass fight over where to set the thermostat.
-- Jim Rosenberg

bsalai wrote:
> Bonehenge (B A R R Y) wrote:
>> On Fri, 19 Oct 2007 07:28:03 -0500, "Jim Macklin"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.naco.faa.gov/content/naco/SpecialNotices/Reconfig_of_Enroute_Low_Charts.pdf
>>>
>>
>>
>> I just started receiving my reconfigured charts based on my NACO
>> subscription. Holy crap, did I just get a stack of charts! <G>
>
> I just glanced at mine, but I think they sent a complete set. I can fly
> anywhere!

Yes, I got the entire set also. However, my subscription also was due
for renewal and they changed it so that if I had just checked the "yes"
box and set it back I would have renewed for the entire USA also! I
only subscribed to 3 LIFR charts before. I thought that was more than
just a little sneaky.

Matt

On Sat, 20 Oct 2007 12:33:35 +0000 (UTC),
(Paul Tomblin) wrote:
>
>My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
>a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
>cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.


I've not tried that service, but find the NACO service to be better,
as well as cheaper, than the other commercial services that I did try.
They even send the mid-cycle Change Notices for free.

The only downside is that you pay up front.

Thanks again to the person here who turned me on to the NACO
subscription.

In a previous article, "John R. Copeland" > said:
>"Paul Tomblin" > wrote in message
...
>> My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
>> a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
>> cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.
>
>So, did you tell them to send everything?
>

No, but I couldn't tell which ones completely corresponded to the two I
normally get, so I'm going ot end up getting 6 charts until I figure out
which ones I need a lot.

--
Paul Tomblin > http://blog.xcski.com/
Command, n.:
Statement presented by a human and accepted by a computer in
such a manner as to make the human feel as if he is in control.

On 10/20/2007 8:33:38 AM, wrote:

> My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
> a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
> cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.

Yep, cancel everyone's subscription so that there is no need for employees.

--
Peter

Peter R. wrote:
> On 10/20/2007 8:33:38 AM, wrote:
>
>> My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
>> a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
>> cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.
>
> Yep, cancel everyone's subscription so that there is no need for employees.

I don't think selling NACO charts is a big profit center for these
resellers.

Peter R. wrote:
> On 10/20/2007 8:33:38 AM, wrote:
>
>
>>My chart subscription is with joepilot.com, and they sent me a notice over
>>a month ago saying I had to tell them what new charts to send or they'd
>>cancel my subscription. That's another way to solve the labour problem.
>
>
> Yep, cancel everyone's subscription so that there is no need for employees.
>

The resellers can't tell by looking at your subscription how much of the
covered area you actually use. If they replaced your subscription with
charts that covered every corner of every chart you previously had, you
most likely would end up with charts you didn't need. The best person
to determine what he needs under the new layout is the user.

That said, I've looked at the charts with an eye to the territory I
usually cover. I can't say that I like the new ones, as it seems that
before most of my flights here in the Northeast could be made with just
one chart (not necessarily the same one). Now, most of my distant
destinations require me to use two charts. PVD to IPT, for example. IPT
was on L25 (right at the edge) as was PVD. None of the new charts have
both airports on it.

Ray Andraka wrote:

>
> The resellers can't tell by looking at your subscription how much of the
> covered area you actually use. If they replaced your subscription with
> charts that covered every corner of every chart you previously had, you
> most likely would end up with charts you didn't need. The best person
> to determine what he needs under the new layout is the user.
>
I think those who subscribed direct from NACO got the entire collection
of charts with this cycle so they could figure out what to renew.

Ray Andraka wrote:
>
>
> The resellers can't tell by looking at your subscription how much of the
> covered area you actually use. If they replaced your subscription with
> charts that covered every corner of every chart you previously had, you
> most likely would end up with charts you didn't need. The best person
> to determine what he needs under the new layout is the user.

My co-owner only subscribes to L-25 (Southern New England). The
company that does his subscription, who shall remain nameless, sent him
ONLY the new L-25, which is now Knoxville / Chattanooga. He also still
pays ~ $7 top ship one chart.

He never switched to NACO when I sent him the link! <G>